Fact Checking The Presidential Debates Pt. 1 2 comments


The slings and arrows have been cast. The jabs and digs have landed. The truths, half-truths, sort-of-truths, and outright lies are in the public record. Now it’s time for the first installment of Fact Checking the Presidential Debates.

Fact Checking The Presidential Debates

He Said

Our energy policies are disaster. Our country is losing so much in terms of energy, in terms of paying off our debt.

“Domestic oil and gas production have increased steadily during President Obama’s time in office. The U.S. has been the world’s leading producer of natural gas since 2011 and the top producer of oil since 2013.

The Energy Information Administration says gasoline prices averaged $2.17 a gallon last week — about a nickel cheaper than a year ago, and about 30 cents a gallon less than Obama’s first year in office, and about a buck and a half less than during George W. Bush’s last year in office.”

Source: Scott Horsley, White House Correspondent – from npr.org.

So Ford is leaving. You see that, their small car division leaving. Thousands of jobs leaving Michigan, leaving Ohio. They’re all leaving. And we can’t allow it to happen anymore.

“Ford is moving its small car production to Mexico, but the expansion will not affect U.S. workers.

The company has said that while production of Ford Focus models will shift to Mexico, its plant in Michigan will build other, larger vehicles. Ford and many other automakers are finding Mexico more attractive for several reasons.

‘The cost of labor is indeed greater in the United States, which makes producing labor-intensive small cars in Mexico more profitable. The United States also has advantages, though — inexpensive electricity, experienced technicians and access to sophisticated materials and equipment — often means building larger and more expensive cars is cheaper in this country,’ our colleague Max Ehrenfreund wrote.”

Source: The Washington Post

I did not say that climate change is a hoax perpetrated by the Chinese.

“Trump did say this in a tweet four years ago. Though he’s since described the tweet as a “joke” and hasn’t pushed the exact theory since, he has repeatedly called climate change a ‘hoax’ in speeches, tweets and media appearances. And he has said as recently as Jan. 18, 2016, that action on climate change ‘is done for the benefit of China.’

We rated his statement Mostly False.

Source: Politifact

She Said

He’s paid nothing in federal taxes, because the only years that anybody’s ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn’t pay any federal income tax.

“This is Mostly False. The records cover five years of returns. They show Trump didn’t pay income taxes in two years — 1978 and 1979. But he did pay taxes in 1975, 1976 and 1977.”

Source: Politifact

You know, I made a mistake using a private email. And if I had to do it over again, I would, obviously, do it differently. But I’m not going to make any excuses. It was a mistake, and I take responsibility for that.

“Regarding Clinton’s statement, the key issue with the email controversy was that Clinton had a private server not just a private email and she never used her designated State Department email account, which would have kept records of emails subject to requests under the Freedom of Information Act.

The accuracy of Trump’s claim depends on whether he is referring to her decision to use a private server, or if he is suggesting that Clinton purposefully intended to mishandle classified information. On the former point, yes, Clinton chose on purpose to use a private email server. On the latter, the FBI would disagree.”

Source: The Washington Post

Independent experts have looked at what I’ve proposed and looked at what Donald’s proposed, and basically they’ve said this, that if his tax plan … were to go into effect, we would lose 3.5 million jobs and maybe have another recession. They’ve looked at my plans and they’ve said, OK, we can do this, and I intend to get it done, we will have 10 million more new jobs, because we will be making investments where we can grow the economy.

“As we have written before, Moody’s Analytics concluded that if Clinton were able to fully implement the plans she has outlined in her campaign, the economy would add 10.4 million jobs during Clinton’s presidency. But that’s 3.2 million more than it projects would be added under current law.

Moreover, Moody’s Analytics doesn’t expect Clinton would likely be able to pass all of her proposals through a divided Congress. ‘Given the current political discord,’ Moody’s expects Congress would put up ‘substantial roadblocks’ to Clinton’s policy proposals, and under its “most-likely scenario,” a Clinton presidency would result in employment going just ‘a bit higher’ than it otherwise would.”

Source: USA Today

ETC

I had a lot of fun tweeting along with the debates last night. My goal was simple – poke fun of the stupidity. In that regard, Donald Trump scored a decisive victory. Some of my favorite gems:

Trump: “Hillary has experience, but it’s bad experience.”

For my sister’s sake, in my dream debate, he followed this statement up with “She also has medicine. Bad Medicine!” Then Bon Jovi would clear the stage by playing the song.

Trump: “And when I look at what’s going on in Charlotte, a city I love, a city where I have investments…”

Yep, nothing screams concern for race relations like property or cash holdings.  Dollar dollar bills, y’all.

Trump (in response to the question, “How do you bring American jobs back?”): “Well, the first thing you do is don’t let the jobs leave.”

So, what we can conclude here is either Donald doesn’t understand how time works or he has a time machine. Don’t think for a second that I didn’t immediately imagine a gold-lettered Trump TARDIS.

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2 thoughts on “Fact Checking The Presidential Debates Pt. 1

  • Randman

    Actually, our domestic oil production has bottomed out, thanks to OPEC, who drove the cost of oil so low it was no longer profitable to explore. I learned this from my half brother, who is a geophysicist, who had to return to the US, because his company couldn’t afford to keep him oversees, because oil wasn’t profitable. OPEC wanted to stop US oil production, and they’ve done a good job.

    And I’m not sure how the fact checkers can spin that Ford isn’t building a car in the US as a good thing. Oh, no one lost their job? Yeah, but no one gained a job, either.

    • pcalderone

      The linked article would appear to support your half brother’s claim:

      In the May Short-Term Energy Outlook (STEO), U.S. petroleum and other liquid fuels production is expected to decline from 15.0 million barrels per day (b/d) in 2015 to about 14.5 million b/d in both 2016 and 2017. In contrast, STEO forecasts Russian liquid fuels production to remain at about 11.0 million barrels per day through 2017. STEO publishes a production forecast for Middle Eastern members of the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) as a whole rather than for individual countries in the region. However, there is currently no indication now Saudi Arabia plans to reduce its current level of petroleum production.